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		<title>Comment on 10 Amot Tall by Yaakov Ellis</title>
		<link>http://shtark.com/2007/02/10-amot-tall/comment-page-1/#comment-20</link>
		<dc:creator>Yaakov Ellis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jan 2009 09:04:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>10 Amot = approximately 4.8 meters =  15.7 feet</description>
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		<title>Comment on Rivka&#8217;s Age II by Mechael</title>
		<link>http://shtark.com/2005/11/rivkas-age-ii/comment-page-1/#comment-5</link>
		<dc:creator>Mechael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 19:22:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>See jewishlegends.com, Tanach Section, which bings down a Tosafos saying that Rivkah was much older than 3 years old when she married Yitzchak Avinu.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>See jewishlegends.com, Tanach Section, which bings down a Tosafos saying that Rivkah was much older than 3 years old when she married Yitzchak Avinu.</p>
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		<title>Comment on 10 Amot Tall by Carmel</title>
		<link>http://shtark.com/2007/02/10-amot-tall/comment-page-1/#comment-19</link>
		<dc:creator>Carmel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 23:29:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So are you saying that 10 amot equals to 15 feet?</description>
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		<title>Comment on The Conquests of Menashe by Ariel</title>
		<link>http://shtark.com/2006/07/the-conquests-of-menashe/comment-page-1/#comment-15</link>
		<dc:creator>Ariel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2007 09:52:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>See http://allyourbeis.blogspot.com/2006/11/early-decision.html
See also the middle of http://allyourbeis.blogspot.com/2007/07/thoughts-on-matotmasei.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>See <a href="http://allyourbeis.blogspot.com/2006/11/early-decision.html" rel="nofollow">http://allyourbeis.blogspot.com/2006/11/early-decision.html</a><br />
See also the middle of <a href="http://allyourbeis.blogspot.com/2007/07/thoughts-on-matotmasei.html" rel="nofollow">http://allyourbeis.blogspot.com/2007/07/thoughts-on-matotmasei.html</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Rivka&#8217;s Age II by S.</title>
		<link>http://shtark.com/2005/11/rivkas-age-ii/comment-page-1/#comment-8</link>
		<dc:creator>S.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov 2005 18:17:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;Yes, this is exactly why I object to the widespread belief that Rivka was three. The truth - ie the point the Midrash was trying to make - is far more complicated, but how many Jews ever get around to investigating the issue? Instead they go thtrough life imagining that Rivka was three, according to authentic, traditional, beleife and that’s it.

you know I agree with you. i don&#039;t think the historical rivka was three and I too am dismayed when intelligent adults not only think that but are unaware that this is but one opinion, and that there is another one.

but you know what? we keep saying &quot;there are deeper meanings&quot; in fantastic midrashim. well, what is the deeper meaning in this one? is it only to preserve chronology?

i think at a certain point people like us have to stop just espousing a rational stance vis a vid midrashim and actually start tackling these midrashim, and trying to uncover the &quot;deeper meaning&quot;. If there is a midrash that she was three, then what, according to US is it trying to convey?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#38;gt;Yes, this is exactly why I object to the widespread belief that Rivka was three. The truth &#8211; ie the point the Midrash was trying to make &#8211; is far more complicated, but how many Jews ever get around to investigating the issue? Instead they go thtrough life imagining that Rivka was three, according to authentic, traditional, beleife and that’s it.</p>
<p>you know I agree with you. i don&#8217;t think the historical rivka was three and I too am dismayed when intelligent adults not only think that but are unaware that this is but one opinion, and that there is another one.</p>
<p>but you know what? we keep saying &#8220;there are deeper meanings&#8221; in fantastic midrashim. well, what is the deeper meaning in this one? is it only to preserve chronology?</p>
<p>i think at a certain point people like us have to stop just espousing a rational stance vis a vid midrashim and actually start tackling these midrashim, and trying to uncover the &#8220;deeper meaning&#8221;. If there is a midrash that she was three, then what, according to US is it trying to convey?</p>
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		<title>Comment on The First FFB by Yaakov</title>
		<link>http://shtark.com/2005/11/the-first-ffb/comment-page-1/#comment-10</link>
		<dc:creator>Yaakov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov 2005 15:04:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That depends on what you are referring to...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That depends on what you are referring to&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on The First FFB by adderabbi</title>
		<link>http://shtark.com/2005/11/the-first-ffb/comment-page-1/#comment-9</link>
		<dc:creator>adderabbi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov 2005 15:01:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this is a chazakah, no?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this is a chazakah, no?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Rivka&#8217;s Age II by Yaakov</title>
		<link>http://shtark.com/2005/11/rivkas-age-ii/comment-page-1/#comment-7</link>
		<dc:creator>Yaakov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Nov 2005 22:06:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that point is that maybe she was three. Or maybe the midrash is to teach something else by saying that she was three. Simply saying &quot;three?? ludicrous&quot; is ignoring the fact that there is a thought-process, based on accepted hermeneutic principles of interpreting the text that legitimately concludes that she &lt;strong&gt;was&lt;/strong&gt;three.

I am not sure completely sure if this was the point that you were trying to make in your post (after reading what you wrote, I am getting something of a &quot;three?? ludicrous&quot; feeling). Feel free to let me know if I got things wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that point is that maybe she was three. Or maybe the midrash is to teach something else by saying that she was three. Simply saying &#8220;three?? ludicrous&#8221; is ignoring the fact that there is a thought-process, based on accepted hermeneutic principles of interpreting the text that legitimately concludes that she <strong>was</strong>three.</p>
<p>I am not sure completely sure if this was the point that you were trying to make in your post (after reading what you wrote, I am getting something of a &#8220;three?? ludicrous&#8221; feeling). Feel free to let me know if I got things wrong.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Rivka&#8217;s Age II by dovbear</title>
		<link>http://shtark.com/2005/11/rivkas-age-ii/comment-page-1/#comment-6</link>
		<dc:creator>dovbear</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Nov 2005 20:15:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, this is exactly why I object to the widespread belief that Rivka was three. The truth - ie the point the Midrash was trying to make - is far more complicated, but how many Jews ever get around to investigating the issue? Instead they go thtrough life imagining that Rivka was three, according to authentic, traditional, beleife and that&#039;s it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, this is exactly why I object to the widespread belief that Rivka was three. The truth &#8211; ie the point the Midrash was trying to make &#8211; is far more complicated, but how many Jews ever get around to investigating the issue? Instead they go thtrough life imagining that Rivka was three, according to authentic, traditional, beleife and that&#8217;s it.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Priorities in Mitzvot by Yaakov</title>
		<link>http://shtark.com/2005/11/priorities-in-mitzvot/comment-page-1/#comment-3</link>
		<dc:creator>Yaakov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Nov 2005 03:24:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In my investigations so far, I have found two different approaches in the commentators:

The first approach is that 9:4 records a totally different trip than 12:5. This explanation is found in the &lt;em&gt;Rosh&lt;/em&gt; on &lt;em&gt;Yevamot&lt;/em&gt;&lt;em&gt; Chapter 6, Siman 12. According to this explanation, in passuk 4, Avram went with Lot to the Land of Israel, and it is at this time that he experienced &lt;/em&gt;&lt;em&gt;Brit Bein haBetarim&lt;/em&gt;. This happened when he was 70 years old (we know this because &lt;em&gt;yetziat mitzrayim&lt;/em&gt; occurred 430 years after the &lt;em&gt;Brit Bein haBetarim&lt;/em&gt;, or 400 years after the birth of Yitzchak. We also know that Yitzchak was born when Avraham was 100 years old. If you do the math, you will see that &lt;em&gt;Brit Bein haBetarim&lt;/em&gt; occurred when Avraham was 70 years old. Yet we read explicitly in 12:5 that Avraham was 75 years old when he left Charan. So in order for Avraham to have left Charan at age 75, there really must have been two separate trips - one detailed in verse 4 (the &quot;pilot trip&quot; with Lot) and one detailed in verse 5.

The second approach (from the &lt;em&gt;Netziv&lt;/em&gt; on 12:4) is an extension of what was written in the post above. Avram, in his enthusiasm to follow Hashem&#039;s command to go to the Land of Israel, could not wait for his entire household to pack up all of their things and sell the house in Charan. He had to leave right away. So that is what he did (with Lot). At some point after he had embarked on his journey, he waited for his wife and the rest of his household to catch up. Once they were all together...verse 5. (The &lt;em&gt;Netziv&lt;/em&gt; refers to the &lt;em&gt;Rosh&lt;/em&gt;&#039;s explanation as a &quot;&lt;em&gt;Peleh&lt;/em&gt;&quot; - however, according to the &lt;em&gt;Netziv&lt;/em&gt; how do you explain the 5 year gap between leaving the Brit and leaving Charan in verse 5.

However, neither of these explanations gives a satisfactory reason why Lot is seemingly demoted in importance from being a central character in 12:4 to just being one more person in the entourage in verse 12:5. Any thoughts?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my investigations so far, I have found two different approaches in the commentators:</p>
<p>The first approach is that 9:4 records a totally different trip than 12:5. This explanation is found in the <em>Rosh</em> on <em>Yevamot</em><em> Chapter 6, Siman 12. According to this explanation, in passuk 4, Avram went with Lot to the Land of Israel, and it is at this time that he experienced </em><em>Brit Bein haBetarim</em>. This happened when he was 70 years old (we know this because <em>yetziat mitzrayim</em> occurred 430 years after the <em>Brit Bein haBetarim</em>, or 400 years after the birth of Yitzchak. We also know that Yitzchak was born when Avraham was 100 years old. If you do the math, you will see that <em>Brit Bein haBetarim</em> occurred when Avraham was 70 years old. Yet we read explicitly in 12:5 that Avraham was 75 years old when he left Charan. So in order for Avraham to have left Charan at age 75, there really must have been two separate trips &#8211; one detailed in verse 4 (the &#8220;pilot trip&#8221; with Lot) and one detailed in verse 5.</p>
<p>The second approach (from the <em>Netziv</em> on 12:4) is an extension of what was written in the post above. Avram, in his enthusiasm to follow Hashem&#8217;s command to go to the Land of Israel, could not wait for his entire household to pack up all of their things and sell the house in Charan. He had to leave right away. So that is what he did (with Lot). At some point after he had embarked on his journey, he waited for his wife and the rest of his household to catch up. Once they were all together&#8230;verse 5. (The <em>Netziv</em> refers to the <em>Rosh</em>&#8217;s explanation as a &#8220;<em>Peleh</em>&#8221; &#8211; however, according to the <em>Netziv</em> how do you explain the 5 year gap between leaving the Brit and leaving Charan in verse 5.</p>
<p>However, neither of these explanations gives a satisfactory reason why Lot is seemingly demoted in importance from being a central character in 12:4 to just being one more person in the entourage in verse 12:5. Any thoughts?</p>
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